yes, I am indeed aware of the thread there.
Well, it's obvious they are trying to discredit us before we truely make something good, as to why it's left to the interpretation of the reader.
about what they said, maybe we indeed sent a bit of a wrong message, DK, however nowhere did we say orca is trash and crap, just that, as history shows us, linux accessibility is undermaintained and underdeveloped, no lie there, no belittling of orca just because.
Someone said we're just reinventing the wheel, that we should instead contribute to orca. Yes, this is not a simple reinventing of the wheel, it might be a reinventing indeed, though not simple, a necessary one.
Why I can't contribute to orca source code? Well, very simple actually. So, that code has as few documentation as morally allowed, almost nothing. I won't mind if it was a small program, however an sr is important to be documented, at least in case its API's aren't, such as in this case.
Another example of reinventing the wheel is commentary screen reader. Well, people could have said that the dev should have contributed to talkback and not roll his own. Well, DK if his being in china prevented him from doing just that, if github is banned there though I think not, however he simply knew something I wasn't made aware till recently, not only about commentary, but about every such thing that exists, existed, or will exist.
So, talkback, as well as orca in my case, are coded in a weird way, undocumented, to an outsider hap-haserdly even. So then, he could learn to navigate tb in panestaking days of scanning for code comments and so on, or spend as much time on collecting the info anyway and making his own, with new ideas, new commands, fresh things to the table.
Many such examples can be thought of in this world, for example, why isn't windows the only OS in existance? why did linux appear, isn't unix enough?
Yeah, being first doesn't actually mean being the best, that doesn't give the first tool presidence over all others, that shouldn't make newcomers not do anything because it has been done before. As it happened before me, so it will happen again, both with yggdrasil and after it. Yes, clones might be awffle, but this is neither a clone nor a copy of orca, neither will it ever be. Sure, we might take some things out of orca, but just because that's our only good enough documentation and example. Maybe as yggdrasil progresses, we will submit patches to various subsystems of linux to make them more accessible, however the low hanging fruit first, a minimal, extendable and blazingly fast screen reader built on current technologies.
Plus, putting words in our mouths and making it seemn we discredited orca for the sake of competition only and not because it's not that good to use in 2021 is not nice, I await your comments on that one. However of one thing I'm sure, maybe yggdrasil would die a gruesom death one day, but we will at least leave something behind, probably a trail of documentation regarding all this for others to work on, try their hand at this mystery.