great list of awesome features, that's indeed goddamn convenient to use, will free up some slots in my apps drawr, it's kinda overflowing in there. About the notification bar vs notification box, notification bar is just bringing you to the upper side of your phone where your notifications are, equivalent to right, then down with talkback. Problem with that is some manufacturers like to clutter the notification bar with things like wifi controll, volume and so on, plus most of the time notifications don't respond nicely to the actions menu, tb makes it work artificially. With the notification box, you get all of them in a single place, regardless of device type or whatever, with an accessible interface to manage them, something some android skins don't allow to do accessibly.

hello.
I want to try CSR, but it's not responding after like 5 minutes I locked the screen. I'm using VivoY93 with android 8. Do I have to upgrade to android 10 or 11 to use it?
if so, I've tried to go to settings>system updates, but I don't see any options to upgrade to the newer version of android OS
o and... is there any free voices that I can use other than eSpeak? because google TTS has a little bit of lag on my phone

@danang137, you don't need to update, CSR supports android8, maybe you didn't set up Commentary correctly. See my audio walkthrough for instructions. if you still want help, let me know so I can help you. Part1 https://drive.google.com/file/d/17mzhkD … sp=sharing Part2 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ropCgK … sp=sharing

41, why would you need a refund policy, considering the fact that the program has a free version for review, and or permanent use?

@46, when I turn on CSR, right when it comes on I get a message in Mandarin telling me I can't customize up, down, left or right gestures. I don't know what gestures specifically it's refering to, but the message is there. So there's a missing piece here somewhere.

Hi all,
First of all, @50 and @51; thanks a bunch for that list of commands and menus respectively. I myself was confused when I tried to use commentry at first as I could not see any list of gestures as well as  had some confusion regarding the inverted gestures which Nidza cleared in her post.
I still have some questions regarding this which I hope could be cleared-
1. Can someone explain what features are not available in the free version of commentry as compared to the payed one? What restrictions are there in the free version if any?
2. In the payed version, the access we get is for life time or a fixed period of time?

@63, imagine the following thing: You are on a website where people post images, but they are not described because it's not facebook or something to autodescribe them. In that case, you turn that feature on and whenever you pass across an image with the focus, csr will do its thing and attempt to label it with a scene description or ocr. Similarly, if you have an inaccessible app, you can use ocr on the screen and csr will allow you to click on text and such things, kinda like voiceover screen recognition. Those features are paid I think, so perhaps you won't be able to use them.

@65, the place to get Jieshuo / Commentary is at https://github.com/nirenr/jieshuo/releases
And in case you want to join, the link to the telegram group is https://t.me/jieshuochat.
To your question about the gestures, you can refer back to post 50, and 51.

@67 are we talking about inverted gestures or standard?
In inverted, by default assuming you enabled the feature, you swipe down to characters and then swipe right to navigate. If, however, you enabled alternative navigation mentioned in post 50, then you'd swipe up and down in a single motion to select the navigation choice, and then swipe up or down to navigate by the selected choice.
It should work.

Yeah, it clearly doesn't work the way it's supposed to.
Swiping up and down with 3 fingers in this case should definitely announce what you just selected.
Now, multy finger gestures work only on Android 11 / 12, and to be honest I'm not sure if they work on all devices.
Haily said above that they work even on non Samsung / Pixel phones unlike with Talkback, but I don't have any device to test this on.
You also need to make sure that multy finger gestures are enabled.
Operation settings / other settings / enable multy finger gestures should be checked.
I also never got any message after installing about certain gestures that can't be changed, neither in  Chinese nor in English. That perhaps signifies multy finger gestures being unsupported? Just a guess though.
Either way, you should be able to use single finger gestures for this without needing multy finger ones.

MY Galaxy s10 supports multifinger gestures for talkback... and the message is there. Look in the operation settings under gestures. If you're using the full version it might not display that message. the message in Chinese when you first load Commentary doesn't show up anymore, which I'm fine with. But unless the translation is out of date, it definitely says the same thing when you go into customize a gesture scheme. So no, it's not working the way it's siupposed to... little things like this adding up were why I stopped using it. A lot of things just didn't seem to work as advertised... lol. Swiping up and down with one finger should not navigate me between pages on my home screen... what?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/17mzhkD … sp=sharing and https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ropCgK … sp=sharing