Well, the goal is for more than 40 or 50 people to pay for the game I guess. Also... yes, if he chose to market it that way, he could absolutely get press outside of the blind community for setting up an MMO for blind people. Nobody has done the marketing correctly for that yet, but it might even be in Camlorn's plans for something like that to happen I'm not sure. I know he has mentioned taking advantage of things that no audiogame really does such as Google ads.

Camlorn has gotten 10k views on a blog article via Hackernews without trying and will consider his life a failure if hiss 6-figure salary doesn't start with a 2 sometime in the next 5 years.  I've done well enough for myself that I have to convince myself that retiring is more important than spending a million dollars on a home with a 200k down payment.  I've run a small company, and if I was willing to put up with a really shitty job and didn't need health insurance, I'd possibly still be doing that.  But importantly to this discussion that means I do actually know how to set up a small company and what kinds of things I need for e.g. copyright assignment.  My resume has 3 billing systems on it, which means I've even got that covered.  The biggest thing I have personally deployed and managed had over 200 TB of ram (it was a media transcoding cluster), and my current job gives me access to individual servers where we have to plan around the fact that our disks hit the AWS disk size limit and the individual machines have ram measured in the hundreds of gb.  I'm 30, my dayjob is more complicated than game programming, and I spent all of my childhood playing games while I had the vision to do so.  The biggest obstacle and why this project is going to take time is merely the fact that I've got a dayjob; the coding itself is mostly annoying and boring with the occasional really hard bit, but 20k lines of code still takes time and I only have a few hours a week.  You're not going to believe me, but if you start making the argument about me instead of the argument then I'm more than happy to punch back and let a bit of the arrogance out of the box.

This is why I try to push blind people down the coding path.

"complex game for the blind" is the kind of thing that gets tons of eyes on it just because of the wtf factor, and *any* social media campaign is better than what anyone else has done.

But that doesn't matter.  I'm not looking for penetration into the sighted world.  I'm expecting it.  There's a difference.  In fact I'd be happy if it never crossed wires with my professional career because it's the kind of thing that's weird and hard to explain and the whole "we are technerds, hire us" thing died out a long time ago in favor of being Mr. professional.  As for blindness circles it'll either be good and spread by word of mouth/being posted in all the blindness places I can find, or it won't, and who I am doesn't matter for that.  If I succeed, it'll succeed on it's own merits.  If I fail, I will have at least produced a bunch of reusable open source components.  And honestly whatever else you might say, pretty much any time this has come up I've been clear that I don't consider success a given either.

@destranis I have defended your actions in the passed, but seriously, quit with that winy attitude already.

What has the one thing to do with the other? We're talking about a huge-scale MMORPG, not about a shooter clone.

Sometimes, as hard as it might be, it is simply the best option to just admit that there are some people who in fact know what they're talking about.

@67, no one is going to buy things for A random person, you know that right?

So if a person can actually back up their claims, it still follows that we should treat them with skepticism and mistrust? That is what 83 is saying and it makes no sense. Sometimes the mistrust and skepticism is warranted. We can say, hey, this person did X, Y, and Z, and we can prove it. Then we have the teen agers or people who act like teen agers that push things past the red line just because they can.

But what can we really expect from this person. They've always had a hard line attitude about things. Most of what they say is devoid of logic or reason. I don't take them seriously anymore, and neither should anyone else.

@68, What's so wrong with allowing people in the EU to play?
@73, The Manamon games aren't bad. They're just overpriced. For one thing, they don't even have voice acting aside from the intro thing and the guy who pronounces the names of the Manamon in the first game. I haven't played the second one so I don't know if that exists. A Heros Call is half the price and that's one of the things it has.
And what I don't understand is why the price of Manamon 1 didn't go down when the second one came out.
@83, Is there a reason you always need something to complain about?

@91 just go on, I will play WOW with your addon whenever I can get my hands on it, step buy step, no one wants you to make it A groundbraking addon in 1 days, it takes time I'll give you that

@90
The GDPR is almost impossible to comply with even for big orgs.  You have to do dedicated design/coding for it from the ground up to be in the clear, and it'll probably cost me money for lawyers etc. before I can officially launch there.

The post wasn't edited by admins in the first place. The guy pussied out and edited his post.

If we ignore what you say, it's generally because you make points to try and support your argument that aren't relevant to the conversation being had anyways.